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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317002" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317002">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>hi <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="897">@T-compiler/meeting</span> ,I think we have a planning meeting now. <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317017" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317017">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was just coming to say that :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317021" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317021">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sorry I'm a few minutes late</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317045" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317045">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:03)</a>:</h4>
<p><span aria-label="wave" class="emoji emoji-1f44b" role="img" title="wave">:wave:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317102" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317102">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>We have no meeting proposals, I don't think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317123" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317123">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>Though I remember us discussing the <em>idea</em> of a meeting around directory naming</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317179" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317179">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>We have a bunch of meetings that need people to make minutes :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317222" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317222">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me remembers all these ideas of things he had wanted to prepare, oh well, next time :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317244" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317244">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess we can start with announcements?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317268" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317268">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh, yeah, good idea :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317273" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317273">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:04)</a>:</h4>
<h1>Announcements</h1>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317404" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317404">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>We could consider having meetings dedicated to pending T-compiler RFCs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317469" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317469">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
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<li>Trivial <code>loop {}</code> should no longer miscompile (<a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/77972">https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/pull/77972</a>), and as mentioned yesterday the general is also getting progress</li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317477" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317477">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>That is awesome!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317529" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317529">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>That is due to work on the LLVM side, right?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317541" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317541">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:06)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116083">pnkfelix</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler.2Fmeetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23/near/214317404">said</a>:</p>
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<p>We could consider having meetings dedicated to pending T-compiler RFCs</p>
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<p>(See <a href="#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler.2Fmeetings/topic/.5Bweekly.20meeting.5D.202020-10-22.20.2354818/near/214199642">yesterday's very quick discussion</a> of two such RFC's. Those topics are not likely to be resolved in triage meetings.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317551" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317551">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>This specific PR is just a quick hack, the general case is LLVM side work</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317553" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317553">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh, I guess the PR is on the rustc side</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317564" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317564">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, cool, credit to both projects :)</p>



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<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> shall I quickly file issues relating to those two rfcs?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317638" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317638">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317664" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317664">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't want to waste people's time if we aren't going to have someone to champion them</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317737" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317737">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wouldn't schedule the meeting without a "Champion"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317764" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317764">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe filing the issue has no purpose otherwise, indeed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317790" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317790">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>let's list the RFCs here...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317807" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317807">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>there's actually quite a list</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317824" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317824">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pulls?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Apr+label%3AT-compiler">pending T-compiler RFCs</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317837" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317837">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>we've never been very good about these</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317875" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317875">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>Is <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span> around?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317978" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317978">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>they might be interested in championing <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/issues/2705">rfc#2705</a>. I could also believe that rfc maybe could be an MCP instead ...?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317983" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317983">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>We did discuss a good chunk of these in a past ad-hoc meeting I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214317987" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214317987">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wonder if <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124287">@mw</span> would want to discuss <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/issues/2705">rfc#2705</a> (the one that <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span> authored)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318000" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318000">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116122">simulacrum</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler.2Fmeetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23/near/214317983">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>We did discuss a good chunk of these in a past ad-hoc meeting I think</p>
</blockquote>
<p>ah, I think I missed that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318030" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318030">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116083">pnkfelix</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler.2Fmeetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23/near/214317978">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>they might be interested in championing <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/issues/2705">rfc#2705</a>. I could also believe that rfc maybe could be an MCP instead ...?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>I tihnk it is affecting public interface</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318049" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318049">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>so at least I would want checkoff I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318051" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318051">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh true</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318076" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318076">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>though it looks fine to me and I'm inclined to do it if y'all think it's a good idea :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318116" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318116">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:11)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/issues/2951">rfc#2951</a> is by <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="123856">@Vadim Petrochenkov</span> but I think they're not typically able to attend these meetings</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318221" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318221">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I feel like we don't have a clear set of folks who decide about things like linker flags :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318279" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Wesley Wiser <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318279">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:12)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116122">simulacrum</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler.2Fmeetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23/near/214317983">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>We did discuss a good chunk of these in a past ad-hoc meeting I think</p>
</blockquote>
<p>There was discussion about our backlog of RFCs here <a href="#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler.2Fmeetings/topic/.5Bweekly.20meeting.20followup.5D.202020-09-11.20.2354818/near/209786965">https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler.2Fmeetings/topic/.5Bweekly.20meeting.20followup.5D.202020-09-11.20.2354818/near/209786965</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318347" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Wesley Wiser <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318347">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think the results were captured in <a href="https://hackmd.io/Z2nbt_FdRCWlypaPQ_iW1g">this hackmd</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318353" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318353">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay so that's like a month and a half ago</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318396" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318396">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm skimming and so far I agree with all the decisions</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318400" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318400">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>Okay here is my concrete proposal: We don't discuss individual RFC's today</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318421" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318421">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>I might be inclined to just go and "act" on them</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318464" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318464">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>(to the extent that didn't already happen)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318472" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318472">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>but rather, we allocate a Friday meeting slot in this cycle</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318486" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318486">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>that is "RFC review day"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318515" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318515">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>and as part of prep for that, we can let the authors of the various RFC's know that this is scheduled</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318546" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318546">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:14)</a>:</h4>
<p>I feel like before that day we should also act on some of the easier ones</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318559" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318559">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>most notably, things we felt could be converted to MCPs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318571" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318571">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>that seems fair to me</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318603" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318603">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>do you want to own the agenda for that day, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> ?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318615" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318615">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sure, I can do that.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318824" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318824">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>shall we also schedule a date to discuss the rustc crate/directory naming stuff?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318891" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318891">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd be ok with that. I would note that a lot of folks seem to be against</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318899" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318899">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318902" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318902">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>so some part of me is like "let's just not do it"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318930" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318930">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yes</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318952" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318952">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>That is another option</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318958" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318958">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>like, I have considered</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214318991" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214318991">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>this may be a case where we, as leads, say "we're going to make the call. We aren't going to make further changes here. It is too contentious."</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319007" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319007">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>And we don't need to allocate a meeting to that.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319080" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319080">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>It kind of feels like a waste of time at this point</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319092" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Joshua Nelson <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319092">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116083">pnkfelix</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler.2Fmeetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23/near/214318991">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>this may be a case where we, as leads, say "we're going to make the call. We aren't going to make further changes here. It is too contentious."</p>
</blockquote>
<p>FWIW I would be ok with that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319115" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319115">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>Normally I prefer to try to do these things by seeking consensus, but in this scenario I don't think we're going to be able to collectively find consensus on what is "best"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319307" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Wesley Wiser <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319307">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>My understanding of the proposal is that the renaming is for (essentially) aesthetic reasons. If there were more "functional" reasons to do the renaming like the names being a contributor roadblock, I think I would be much more onboard with them.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319359" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319359">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>The main "functional" reason, as I understand it, is that someone managed to observe a performance delta connected with the longer names.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319395" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Wesley Wiser <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319395">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>My point isn't to get into the proposal here but just to point out there may be better reasons to do the renaming in the future and we should still be open to that if new data arises.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319396" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319396">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK, I am inclined to make that call as well.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319468" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319468">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="125250">Wesley Wiser</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler.2Fmeetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23/near/214319395">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>My point isn't to get into the proposal here but just to point out there may be better reasons to do the renaming in the future and we should still be open to that if new data arises.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>fair enough.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319474" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319474">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I would be ok to revisit in the future as well, I also think it's not a bad idea to sit with the renaming we have for a bit :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319494" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319494">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I want to avoid repeated re-litigation, though.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319497" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319497">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>ack, running low on battery, let me relocate upstairs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319776" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319776">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay so it sounds like we have a single meeting proposed, for a general "RFC day"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319784" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319784">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:24)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> when do you want to schedule the RFC meetin--- that :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319833" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319833">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>not next week</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319858" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319858">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe in 2 weeks?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319859" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319859">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I'm anticipating next week being very busy for me. Perhaps all of next month. <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span> )</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319870" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319870">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd be good to aim for doing it in 2 weeks</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319872" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319872">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>we could do in 3 weeks</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319877" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319877">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>i.e. November 6th</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319917" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319917">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>also</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319932" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319932">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>we have a release on November 19th</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214319989" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214319989">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>and our next planning meeting is november 20th</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320018" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320018">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> had asked me, maybe before the most recent release</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320039" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320039">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>if we should allocate more time up front</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320044" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320044">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>to dive into regressions</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320046" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320046">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>as a team</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320059" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320059">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>in the weeks leading up to a release</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320080" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> oli <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320080">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>do we do async RFC actions until then or should we just use the time until the RFC meeting to collect all the info in a doc?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320116" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320116">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="124288">@oli</span> I think <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> was suggesting that we could take async RFC actions in the meantime</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320131" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320131">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>e.g. converting smaller ones to MCP's</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320156" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320156">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>so even though I just said "November 6th" is good for RFC day</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320166" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320166">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am in favor of taking async actions</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320175" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320175">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>that will help us drive the meeting productively</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320181" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320181">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am now wondering if November 6th would be better as "regressions day"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320234" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320234">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>that...may be even better</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320325" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320325">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am not sure a sync 1 hour meeting (especially over text) is going to be super helpful, but I am definitely on board with trying it!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320327" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320327">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe November 6th is regressions day, and November 13th is RFC day, in that case?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320366" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320366">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> its true, maybe we need to revise other aspects of our meeting format to make this more effective</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320390" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320390">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>can we describe the goal of regression day?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320394" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320394">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>to review the state?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320435" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320435">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd say the main goal is to ensure that we have people assigned to address each regression</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320542" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320542">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>and to double-check that the assignees anticipate having time to investigate</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320569" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320569">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>and, possibly, to plan last minute reverts</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320582" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320582">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>when feasible</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320615" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320615">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me wonders what else the meeting would accomplish, besides drawing more attention to such bugs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320631" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320631">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think an example where we <em>did</em> have success</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320651" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320651">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>was the Windows LDD linker bug</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320679" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320679">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>that, I think, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span> and <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> and I all synchronously discussed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320687" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320687">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>during (I think) a Friday meeting slot</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320853" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320853">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>did the whole team need to be there? I guess not; except that you don't always know <em>who</em> is going to come to the table with the right insights</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320874" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320874">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>indeed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320880" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320880">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>just in case, my idea was simpler and was about not having the compiler weekly meeting at the same time that the release happens</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320901" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320901">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>btw, what <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/2705">https://github.com/rust-lang/rfcs/pull/2705</a> describes has already been implemented</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320929" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320929">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>no real way around it, crate names can start with digits</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320950" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320950">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>so this is just a PR to "fix" the RFC text</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320975" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320975">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh. indeed.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320977" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320977">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>let's just move to merge</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320989" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320989">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>or just merge</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320990" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320990">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>that seems like something we should just merge, yeah.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214320998" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214320998">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler.2Fmeetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23/near/214320880">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>just in case, my idea was simpler and was about not having the compiler weekly meeting at the same time that the release happens</p>
</blockquote>
<p>anyway maybe the idea you're talking about is better, just mentioning that I was aiming for something very simple :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321004" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321004">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>I forgot this wasn't dealt with more than a year ago heh</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321009" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321009">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can just merge it right now :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321022" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321022">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>if it's already been implemented and is "settled"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321041" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321041">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think it really requires FCP</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321082" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321082">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yay we accomplished something in this meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321114" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321114">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>only problem <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span> is it needs to be rebased :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321115" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321115">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah there were a few things that didn't end up into the RFC before merging despite being discussed before</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321124" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321124">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>god dammit</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321137" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321137">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can maybe resolve the conflicts myself if you want</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321263" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321263">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm not sure about the regr meeting <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> but not opposed to trying it. I do think we should "rethink" how we manage our bugs a bit, but I'm a bit unsure what is the right thing to do.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321394" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321394">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>I remember discussing with someone how at their company they did quarterly "bug scrubs" where they went over all the bugs, and kind of recategorized them, etc. They mentioned how some of the old bugs became old friends. Anyway, I could never <em>quite</em> see how that would fit within rustc but I feel like refreshing our memory as to old problems (and maybe getting some renewed desire to fix or mentor a fix) is a good idea :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321503" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321503">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321529" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321529">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>I know Graydon did regular full reviews of all teh bugs</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321531" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321531">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>I have wanted to propose a "Compiler Backlog Bonanza"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321538" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321538">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was thinking about that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321564" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321564">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>My main memory is that it was painful</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321565" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321565">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>the lang team process has been pretty effective, I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321602" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321602">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:38)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116083">pnkfelix</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler.2Fmeetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23/near/214321564">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>My main memory is that it was painful</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yeah I don't think it was super useful that's why I don't <em>really</em> think a quarterly bug scrub is "right"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321701" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321701">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>but in any case, I agree we need to do <em>something</em> about this backlog.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321795" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321795">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321808" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321808">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am up for trying to prepare a doodle for a 1hr sync meeting -- I think it has to be video fwiw</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321822" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321822">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can write up agendas for a "regression day" on November 6th</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321838" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321838">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>and "RFC day" on November 13th</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321857" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321857">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:39)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> so you want to do it via Zoom, you think?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321869" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321869">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321910" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321910">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>that will definitely increase bandwidth</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321914" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321914">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>the backlog meeting that is</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321950" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321950">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:40)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> or at least increase how much internet bandwidth we're <strong>using</strong> <span aria-label="laughing" class="emoji emoji-1f606" role="img" title="laughing">:laughing:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214321992" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214321992">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>but yes, it would help with response times from people</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322018" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322018">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>i.e. not waiting after messages to see who chimes in</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322059" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322059">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>Is there anyone here who would not attend a meeting if is held on Zoom instead of in Zulip?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322074" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322074">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's also just a bit easier to juggle having an open browser</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322131" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322131">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>(that said, a lot of people have reported finding zulip meetings easier to follow along because work, language barrier)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322133" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322133">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>You mean because of screen sharing?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322139" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322139">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>to be clear, I don't expect full attendance from contributors for sure, I would like to see maybe 4-5 people there. I think they can vary over time too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322153" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322153">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:42)</a>:</h4>
<p><em>screen sharing</em> seems like something we could maybe add to the existing meeting structure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322162" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322162">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>no, I meant because you can kind of browse and hear people talking at the same time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322179" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322179">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:42)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> ah I see now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322218" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322218">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>We need to see if Zulip can add some text-to-speech components. <span aria-label="wink" class="emoji emoji-1f609" role="img" title="wink">:wink:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322221" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322221">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>two monitors helps too :) though right now my second monitor is in use for remote learning setup</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322242" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322242">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>just get a 49" monitor</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322276" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Wesley Wiser <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322276">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>Zulip is better for me, in general, for that reason but I'm actually on PTO on Nov 6 so that will maybe work for me to do Zoom instead <span aria-label="smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="smile">:smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322356" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322356">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway I propose we schedule it, try it on zoom, and end this meeting :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322408" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322408">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>we can maybe discuss a bit in the interim just what kind of backlog to focus <em>on</em> though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322418" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322418">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>/me will send a doodle to compiler-team@ and compiler-contributors@</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322443" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322443">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh, we're not just going to use the regular slot?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322465" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322465">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>wait, what slot?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322471" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322471">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>(we can fill out a doodle, I don't care)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322476" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322476">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>you mean a design meeting?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322478" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322478">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>I thought we'd use this slot</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322484" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322484">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>hm, that's an idea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322501" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322501">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd be fine with that to start</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322516" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322516">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>then we should schedule it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322535" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322535">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>I feel like a doodle will be a horrible pain</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322547" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322547">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah this slot is what I was assuming</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322558" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322558">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:45)</a>:</h4>
<p>(though we might well get more participation)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322680" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322680">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>actually, I don't think I can do zoom in this slot fwiw.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322695" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322695">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322718" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322718">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>heh ok</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322722" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322722">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>well that's a bummer</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322879" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322879">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>Did we run a survey semi-recently if this slot works for a good portion of compiler team/contributors anyway?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322917" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322917">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>(It feels like doing so at least quarterly is a good idea)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322957" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322957">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:48)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116083">pnkfelix</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler.2Fmeetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23/near/214322059">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Is there anyone here who would not attend a meeting if is held on Zoom instead of in Zulip?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>anyone else in addition to <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> in that boat, then?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214322963" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214322963">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>I am wondering if maybe we still keep it in design meeting slot, but perhaps that should move</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323002" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323002">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>as someone that suffer with the language barrier issues, I think video chat with screen sharing and also recording of the sessions has it good set of advantages too.<br>
It is very helpful to visually see stuff (helps to comprehend what are we talking about) and also for people that are more new to contributing is good to see how others go over issues. Also a very important thing is that everyone is nice and patient when non native speakers in general but me in particular spend like 5 minutes to say a simple phrase :P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323010" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323010">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:48)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116122">simulacrum</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler.2Fmeetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23/near/214322879">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>Did we run a survey semi-recently if this slot works for a good portion of compiler team/contributors anyway?</p>
</blockquote>
<p>we have not, and I agree that we should consider that doing that regularly</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323126" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323126">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>so there's a couple different topics in flight right now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323132" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323132">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway I can still offer that doodle I guess, or we can punt this till next planning meeting -- my schedule will change in 4-5 weeks anyway.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323199" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323199">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>there's the question of whether we can hold Zoom calls in this Friday time slot in general</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323246" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323246">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>and there's the question of whether this Friday time slot even works for these steering meetings for a good portion of T-compiler</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323276" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323276">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>I dont want to schedule a Zoom meeting and then discover that means almost no one can show up</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323289" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323289">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>so lets have a show of emoji hands</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323308" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323308">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>put a <span aria-label="hand" class="emoji emoji-270b" role="img" title="hand">:hand:</span> here if you think you could attend a Zoom call on November 6th in this time slot</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323354" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323354">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I know not everyone is here, so this is at best a lowerbound)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323567" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323567">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>(and okay, I admit my statement above is omitting <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116266">@Santiago Pastorino</span> 's point that a recorded session is potentially useful, even in the face of low attendance.)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323655" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323655">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay. I think 6 hands is enough</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323685" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323685">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>for us to go ahead and schedule a Zoom meeting for November 6th</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323704" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323704">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>my current plan is that it will focus on regressions relevant to the next release</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323722" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323722">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>if we are so lucky as to have a very small number of regressions</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323754" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323754">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>then we can switch to some more general bug review</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323768" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323768">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I'll wait to make that decision until we are closer to the date</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323834" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323834">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>Now, do we <em>also</em> schedule an "RFC day" for November 13th?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323870" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323870">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think that it would be useful to have it as a sort of deadline</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323889" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323889">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>in terms of trying to push for async progress to be made by that point</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323914" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323914">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm loosely in favor</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323925" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323925">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay. Lets plan for that too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214323940" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214323940">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:57)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116083">pnkfelix</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler.2Fmeetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23/near/214323567">said</a>:</p>
<blockquote>
<p>(and okay, I admit my statement above is omitting <span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116266">Santiago Pastorino</span> 's point that a recorded session is potentially useful, even in the face of low attendance.)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>to be clear, there are two good things about it in my opinion, the obvious one that people that did not attend can check what happened later but also for me in case there's something that I wasn't able to follow properly I can re-watch a little subset of the video (in practice I almost never do this) but it's a good backup plan for when one is not able to understand something</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214324012" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214324012">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>I dunno, I think when I watch myself repeatedly, I get more confused by the things I said. :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214324020" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214324020">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>(that was a half joke)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214324026" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Santiago Pastorino <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214324026">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>:P</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214324096" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214324096">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>Okay so that's the schedule for the steering meetings this cycle then</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214324107" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214324107">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>thanks to everyone in <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="897">@T-compiler/meeting</span> for attending!!!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214324119" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> pnkfelix <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214324119">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>let me go see if I can create these events...</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning%20meeting%202020.10.23/near/214324243" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/238009-t-compiler/meetings/topic/planning.20meeting.202020.2E10.2E23.html#214324243">(Oct 23 2020 at 14:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thanks <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116083">@pnkfelix</span> for driving :)</p>



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